tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post1993837661100326051..comments2024-03-26T10:01:18.135-04:00Comments on Living the Frugal Life: First Tincture: Valerian RootKatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18017959421018964001noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-57271551919598075812016-06-16T20:20:02.313-04:002016-06-16T20:20:02.313-04:00Thank you for all the useful info, I am harvesting...Thank you for all the useful info, I am harvesting for the first time and really needed all the info I can findAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10777836655959371049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-58958437563315829942016-06-10T19:58:22.008-04:002016-06-10T19:58:22.008-04:00I see there hasn't been a post from Living the...I see there hasn't been a post from Living the Frugal Life since 2013?? I am just now finding you...you got my attention!Babbsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-1044341487138256872015-06-06T20:06:19.550-04:002015-06-06T20:06:19.550-04:00this was so helpful. I can grow the stuff. boy oh ...this was so helpful. I can grow the stuff. boy oh boy can I grow it. it comes up everywhere in the yard in the spring. I have never got up the nerve to harvest it, because what I have bought dried, from the store, to use as tea, to help with the sleep (which by the way is effective) stinks so much. I mix it with beebalm, mulllien, mint and vanilla, sometimes lemon balm so I can stand the smell. It really is like dirty socks. your blog states that it doesn't smell that bad freshly dug. well, I will get back to you in the fall to tell if I agree about the smell. Thanks for the information, and I will try the tincture as well.robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04114840277041574067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-87627608341217320932015-05-18T16:08:42.547-04:002015-05-18T16:08:42.547-04:00Probable a dumb question, but how much of the tinc...Probable a dumb question, but how much of the tincture do you use at a time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-28971464563171181922015-05-07T23:29:12.321-04:002015-05-07T23:29:12.321-04:00I will have to try this. I've been using vale...I will have to try this. I've been using valerian for over 20 years for headaches and insomnia. I started with a tincture from an herb shop. Now I used capsules of the powdered root. Both stink to high heaven. I put the tincture in orange juice and plugged my nose to drink it. If I were to make my own, I think I'd try the mint idea.Karennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-74175257534349832013-11-26T06:51:35.463-05:002013-11-26T06:51:35.463-05:00James,
The alcohol is a solvent for the medicina...James, <br /><br />The alcohol is a solvent for the medicinal elements of the root. Also, it's an excellent preservative. Once you have a strongly alcoholic tincture, it basically lasts forever without degrading, so long as it doesn't evaporate. I understand that glycerin is another medium used for medicinal tinctures. Sometimes glycerin is actually preferred over alcohol for some medicinal plants. I don't know too much about those sorts of tinctures though. You could find out about that in a book on medicinal herbs.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18017959421018964001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-51887033485878775132013-11-25T21:39:55.144-05:002013-11-25T21:39:55.144-05:00Q:
Why vodka? why not water, or an oil of some ki...Q:<br />Why vodka? why not water, or an oil of some kind?<br /><br />I'm an alcoholic & the LAST THING I need is to get anywhere near alcohol....<br /><br />I like this idea of yours tho...I have heard for years about Valerian Root & how it helps you to sleep, I just have never tried it....yet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-56533749367618826442013-11-18T15:15:03.290-05:002013-11-18T15:15:03.290-05:00I have just started to dabble in this. Today I mad...I have just started to dabble in this. Today I made my first Tincture of Chamomile and Valerian root, both dried, mixed together. I hope in a few weeks, it works. I have been on sleeping meds via my MD for too many years. I am going all natural with most things. A new life at the age of 50...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09576121682114664061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-23109929172093623422011-10-19T22:49:45.247-04:002011-10-19T22:49:45.247-04:00I enjoyed reading your experience with tincturing ...I enjoyed reading your experience with tincturing valerian, especially since I just went through the exact process yesterday. It took forever to wash the roots in my kitchen sick. When I dug up my plant though, I cut the root wad into quarters and placed one quarter back into the ground for next year. I have three other plants and will rotate them for usage each season.<br /><br />I am currently drying the roots in my over under the lowest temperature possible. Tomorrow I plan to tincture them. It's my understanding the tincture is most potent when tinctured dry. Right now the smell of drying valerian is powerful and driving my cats wild!Pattynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-19873323255208271482011-10-11T09:19:38.143-04:002011-10-11T09:19:38.143-04:00I understand the volatile oils in valerian root a...I understand the volatile oils in valerian root are stronger when the root is dried. When I tinctured mine in 200-proof vodka, (available in MT, not ID) I put them in the vodka right away (fresh-cut). Next time I'll try drying them first. Also, in cleaning the root, I used a hard stream from the nozzle attachment to get the big dirt off; every time I ran into a deep crevice, I cut it apart there with my clippers (not wimpy scissors) and continued with the hard stream of water, cutting and hosing as I went. Next step was to cut all the rootlets into 1/4" dice with my clippers. This summer, when I cut off all the flowers before they opened, expecting a huge crop of juicy roots, because the plants were several years old All of the roots of the huge plants I chose to harvest were dried up, papery, and SPENT. Lesson learned: don't let them go longer than three years. Fortunately, I have lots of younger plants to check because valerian HAS become invasive in my yard, and I love it. The flowers smell heavenly! The more the better! And, yes, the roots stink to high heaven. Even in a sealed quart jar outside on the deck, the smell was unbearable.northidahojoycehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04410395186013657075noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-79330000882760367152011-06-07T08:33:33.047-04:002011-06-07T08:33:33.047-04:00Andy & Cheryl, thanks for clarifying.
Sarah, ...Andy & Cheryl, thanks for clarifying.<br /><br />Sarah, thanks for the suggestions. My husband and I have both used valerian store-bought tablets and found them helpful for sleep. So I hope our experience with the tincture will bring no surprises there.<br /><br />Kelsie, good to know. I just put in some elecampane this year. I should be processing my first flower tincture pretty soon. The camomile has buds on it right now.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18017959421018964001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-40561660858282890602011-05-11T12:51:10.826-04:002011-05-11T12:51:10.826-04:00Yep--Someone mentioned that the plants will propag...Yep--Someone mentioned that the plants will propagate, and that's definitely true with almost any medicinal herb where you use the roots. Just make sure some pieces of the rootstock break off in the ground when you harvest. I grow elecampane in my medicinal garden, and I was SO SAD when I dug up the second year plants to make tinctures...to my absolute joy, though, even MORE elecampane plants than I started with popped up out of the ground this spring and now they're HUGE--bigger than the plants I started from seed two years ago. Root tinctures are definitely more time consuming to make, so when you try your first leaf/flower tinctures, you'll be pleasantly surprised at how quickly you can prep one!Kelsiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00360453556050034020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-38166919234494884162011-05-09T09:09:45.684-04:002011-05-09T09:09:45.684-04:00Could I suggest that when your tincture is ready, ...Could I suggest that when your tincture is ready, you clear your weekend before trying it. Fresh root affects people differently from dried root. Autumn and spring harvest will also be different. Some people find valarian calms them down/helps them sleep, others find it stimulating and makes them hyperactive. So start off with a small dose and give yourself time to see how it affects you. Valerian is like valium in that it is actually a muscle relaxant rather than a straight forward soporific. You can also mix it in tincture form with passionflower and hops tinctures to give a very effective sleep rememdy. Don't use hops if prown to depression and don't give hops to men with compromised testosterone levels. You can also use the aerial parts if you want a less strong medicine.Sarah Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08975928642943693605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-11216888149743837832011-05-09T08:40:39.548-04:002011-05-09T08:40:39.548-04:00Andy/Cheryl, do you mean that you make a mixed tin...Andy/Cheryl, do you mean that you make a mixed tincture of valerian and spearmint? Or separate tinctures? Or something else? I have spearmint too, so maybe I should do something with it, other than dry it for cooking.<br /><br />I have 2 separate tinctures I buy from the store (Haven't got around to making homemade tinctures yet).<br /><br />Spearmint is a leaf tincture. <br /><br />Says 15-30 drops 1-3 times a day. per tincture. (Consult doctor if unusual symptoms develop). <br /><br />When I have a headache I put a little of both tinctures (15-30 drops per tincture) into some warm water and drink as a tea. Usually takes me 3 cups to get rid of a headache.Andy Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11397531685725123035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-64735105368922044662011-05-08T07:14:59.403-04:002011-05-08T07:14:59.403-04:00SFT, thank you. You goals project sounds a lot mo...SFT, thank you. You goals project sounds a lot more ambitious than mine. Even assembling a list of 101 goals sounds like a challenge, let alone getting them done! <br /><br />Jackie, you probably know this, but your comment made me realize that I wasn't terribly clear in my post. Tinctures are not always made with roots. Depending on the plant, they might be made from other parts. Root tinctures are obviously more work than leaf tinctures, and more destructive. And if it had been a burdock root tincture, the cleaning would have been much simpler, though the digging would have been prodigious. So yes, tincturing doesn't have to be as difficult as it is with valerian. Don't let my experience put you off.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18017959421018964001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-90443186754943103162011-05-08T00:10:50.379-04:002011-05-08T00:10:50.379-04:00Great post. I have been interested in making tinct...Great post. I have been interested in making tinctures for a little while now but haven't taken that step to actually doing it. It sounds easy enough once you get past the root cleaning.Jackiehttp://www.jackscouponcodes.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-1742471152505577802011-05-07T09:50:32.737-04:002011-05-07T09:50:32.737-04:00Congratulations on working on one of your goals. I...Congratulations on working on one of your goals. I was very impressed with your list. I'm currently blogging about my 101 goals in 1001 days. It is good to have something to work towards don't you think?<br /><br />Keep up the excellent posts.<br /><br />Sft xAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17545087114808861192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-8774036262530064652011-05-07T07:39:22.876-04:002011-05-07T07:39:22.876-04:00Tovar, thanks for letting me know the plants will ...Tovar, thanks for letting me know the plants will propagate. That's encouraging. I hope the two I left will do so, and I hope that by next spring the trauma of harvesting the roots has faded enough that purposeful harvesting will keep the valerian in check.<br /><br />Chile, you're welcome. I used a sprayer hose. These roots were just incredibly thick and tangled, and had some wood mulch in their clutches as well as dirt.<br /><br />QoS, I put my nettles in really poor soil and in a shady area. I want them to expand, just not like crazy. So far the expansion has been minimal - just about right. I'll keep posting as often as I can manage, but I think the schedule will always be erratic. <br /><br />teekaroo, me too. Seems like the books and planting the herbs only take me so far. Then it's time to actually get my hands dirty.<br /><br />Paula, I think the scent of the freshly dug root is a little different from the dried variety. I wouldn't wear it as a perfume or anything, but it's sort of a neat scent. Thanks for letting me know the kale seeds are sprouting. I hope they do their Pennsylvania heritage proud.<br /><br />Andy/Cheryl, do you mean that you make a mixed tincture of valerian and spearmint? Or separate tinctures? Or something else? I have spearmint too, so maybe I should do something with it, other than dry it for cooking.<br /><br />Jen, that sounds like a great tincture combo. I love elderberry and ginger. Going on my list!Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18017959421018964001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-34856422398680124972011-05-06T21:15:04.486-04:002011-05-06T21:15:04.486-04:00Last year was my first attempt at tinctures - echi...Last year was my first attempt at tinctures - echinacea and ginger, mixed (after tincturing) with elderberry juice and sugar (to preserve the elderberry juice). I did not get around to tincturing the root of the echinacea, but the rest of the plant was easy to deal with. I couldn't bring myself to do the roots due to the difficulties you describe - hours of cleaning, killing my plants. This was meant to be an immune system tonic, and indeed we were healthy until we ran out of it in March.Jenhttp://www.bearswamporchard.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-45447129550566286512011-05-06T09:51:04.953-04:002011-05-06T09:51:04.953-04:00Good for you on Valerian Root tincture. I use Vale...Good for you on Valerian Root tincture. I use Valerian for headaches. I mix it with spearmint. Really helps alot.Andy Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11397531685725123035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-47508101115105697502011-05-06T09:01:27.023-04:002011-05-06T09:01:27.023-04:00From the dried valerian powder at the health food ...From the dried valerian powder at the health food store, I'd describe it as "terrible foot odor." Phew!! I can always smell it long after a customer has opened the jar!<br /><br />P.S. Despite our record-setting cool "La Nina" weather, your Tuscan kale seeds are sprouting well!Paula Adams Perezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13802776515098037155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-6200993143282202422011-05-06T00:01:42.934-04:002011-05-06T00:01:42.934-04:00Wow, that seems like a lot of work. I don't k...Wow, that seems like a lot of work. I don't know much about herbal remedies, but it is something I would like to learn more about.teekaroohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17600855230034505108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-59446459991451045462011-05-05T18:03:11.596-04:002011-05-05T18:03:11.596-04:00I have been considering having a nettle patch or t...I have been considering having a nettle patch or tub or something. I was concerned they would invade everywhere though. Did you do anything special to stop them and have they been a problem?<br /><br />thanks<br /><br />it's a shame you dont have time to post so much anymore, I have learnt a lot from your blog.queen of stringhttp://www.jellyfiss.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-33373762538350021982011-05-05T17:46:33.036-04:002011-05-05T17:46:33.036-04:00Interesting. Thank you for sharing this info!
...Interesting. Thank you for sharing this info! <br /><br />Question about cleaning the roots. Were you just using a regular hose or a sprayer? I clean vegs in my volunteer job at a local organic garden and found the sprayer on the hose makes very quick work of getting the dirt out of the thick onion roots. Trying to clean it under running water in the faucet takes much longer. So...I'm thinking a sprayer might work for you, too.Chilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406176434011890590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7237633934633144064.post-36467727493484340962011-05-05T17:15:27.053-04:002011-05-05T17:15:27.053-04:00Two things about valerian: A good tincture really ...Two things about valerian: A good tincture really will knock you out if you're having trouble sleeping. And the plants really will propagate -- in some places it is considered an invasive.<br /><br />My wife knows a fair amount about herbal medicines, so feel free to shoot an email this way if you have questions or are looking for good resources.Tovar@AMindfulCarnivorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786679920725797712noreply@blogger.com